Czy ktoś wie czy można nagrać coś jeszcze na zamkniętą już sesję na płycie?

Mulder [ Generaďż˝ ]

A w praktyce to nie wiem, bo dopiero co kupiłem sobie nagrywarkę :) Ale chyba też nie :)

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Ja właśnie słyszałem, że można tylko nie wiem jak?

Mastyl [ Legend ]

W nero jest opcja "continue session" chyba, ale nie probowalem jej w praktyce jeszcze...

deTorquemada [ Pamiętaj ]

Jest jakis program .. ale nazwy nie pomnym .... Popatrz pod tym linkiem, moze cos bedzie. Pozdrawiam. \/

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Ale sesja już jest zamknięta!

Father Michael [ Padre ]

Nie da sie, chyba ze opcja, o ktorej pisal Mastyl dziala.

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Musi się dać bo mój profesor tak zrobił tylko nie chce mi powiedzieć jak, mam sam do tego dojść.

Pakuś [ Centurion ]

jeżeli sesja jest juz zamknięta to się nie da jużnic na płytce nagrać, jest możliwośc tylko dogrywania na płytke sesja ale pod warunkiem że nie zamknie sie płytki

08.10.2002

22:26

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Poke [ Konsul ]

Mam powazne watpliwosci co do Twojego profesora Close Disc To "close" a recordable disc so that no further data can be written to it. This is done when the last session's lead-in is written. The next writeable address on the disc is not recorded in that lead-in, so the CD recorder in subsequent attempts to write has no way of knowing where to begin writing. Note: It is NOT necessary to close a disc in order to read it in a normal CD-ROM drive. Close Session When a session is closed, information about its contents is written into the disc's Table of Contents, and a lead-in and lead-out are written to prepare the disc for a subsequent session. Glossary A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | L | M | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | Y A a-characters The character set used in the ISO 9660 Volume Descriptors. It consists of capital A to Z, digits 0 to 9, and the following symbols: (space) ! " % & ' ( ) = * + , - . / : ; < ? > _ A-Time (or absolute time) In an audio CD, the time elapsed since the beginning of the disc. It can be used in determining the start and stop times of sound segments for programming an application on a mixed-mode disc, measuring from the very beginning of the data area (including the computer data in Track 1). Aspect Ratio An image's width to height ratio. ASPI Advanced SCSI Programmer's Interface. A layer of code which manages communication between software and SCSI cards. Authoring What you do to create an application which may eventually be stored on CD. For example, if you wish to create a multimedia game or presentation, you will need authoring software that allows you to combine sound, graphics, and text with user interactivity. When you have finished creating your application with authoring software, you can use CD recording software such as Easy CD Creator or Toast to write it to CD. Auto-Insert Notification A feature of Windows operating systems which causes an audio CD to be played or an application disc to launch an application (for some discs) as soon as the disc is mounted in a CD drive. With earlier CD-R software it was recommended that this feature be turned off, but with Easy CD Creator and DirectCD it is preferable to leave it on. This setting must be made for each CD unit separately; in Windows 95 it can be made in Control Panel | System | Device Manager | CD-ROM | [your CD-ROM drive] | Settings B Barcode A unique code for a compact disc. With recordable CDs, this number is often printed in the clear inner ring of the disc. Some CD recorders can also read this information digitally. BLER Block Error Rate. Measures how many errors occur in a given time period while a disc is playing, usually an average over a ten-second time span. More information. Block See sector. Blue Book The official standard which dictates the format of CD Extra discs. Bootable A CD (or floppy, hard disk, or other storage media) from which a computer can be started up, because it contains all the operating system software the computer needs to run. A bootable CD contains a bootable image - a file which is an exact representation of a boot floppy or hard drive. Bootable CDs are usually made according to the El Torito standard. Buffer An amount of memory which temporarily stores data to help compensate for differences in the transfer rate of data from one device to another. In CD recorders, the buffer helps to prevent buffer underruns. Buffer Underrun A buffer underrun occurs when your computer system cannot keep up the steady stream of data required for CD recording. The CD recorder has an internal memory buffer to protect against interruptions and slowdowns, but if the interruption is so long that the recorder's buffer is completely emptied, a buffer underrun occurs, writing stops, and most often the recordable CD is ruined. See also About Buffer Underruns. C Caddy The plastic and metal carrier into which a CD must be inserted before it is loaded into some CD-ROM drives or CD recorders (others have a tray which slides out to receive the disc, and do not need caddies). CD Bridge A set of specifications defining a way of recording CD-I information on a CD- ROM XA disc. Used for Photo CD and Video CD. CD Extra or CD Plus A multisession disc containing a number of audio tracks in the first session, and one CD-ROM XA data track in the second session. Additional characteristics are defined in the Blue Book standard. An alternative to mixed-mode for combining standard CD-DA audio (which can be played in a normal audio player), and a computer application, on a single disc. CD+G (aka karaoke) A special disc disc format in which simple graphics and text are stored in the subchannels of an audio disc, but you need a special player to read and display this information. The data in the subchannels cannot be copied with most current systems or software. CD-DA Compact Disc-Digital Audio. Jointly developed by Philips and Sony and launched in October, 1982, CD-DA was the first incarnation of the compact disc, used to digitally record and play back music. The standard under which CD-DA discs are recorded is known as the Red Book. Audio tracks on CD-DA discs are stored at 44,100 Hz, 16 Bits, stereo. CD-I A compact disc format (no longer used) developed by Philips, designed to allow interactive multimedia applications to be run on a player attached to a television. The standard document defining CD-I is called the Green Book. CD-R Compact disc-recordable. When referring to recordable discs (media), "CD- R" is often used to refer to write-once discs, in contrast to CD-RW. See also Recordable Disc. CD-ROM Compact Disc-Read Only Memory. A standard for compact disc to be used as digital memory media for personal computers. The specifications for CD- ROM were first defined in the Yellow Book. CD-ROM Drive A peripheral device attached to a computer which allows it to read/play a CD- ROM disc. All CD-ROM players can also play back audio CDs, but you need external headphones or speakers to hear them. CD-ROM XA "XA" stands for Extended Architecture. CD-ROM XA is an extension of the Yellow Book standard, generally consistent with the ISO 9660 logical format but designed to add better audio and video capabilities (taken from the CD-I standard) so that CD-ROM could more easily be used for multimedia applications. CD-ROM XAwas abandoned as an independent multimedia format, but Photo CD discs are written in the CD-ROM XA physical format. CD-RW CD-ReWritable. CD recordable media which can be erased and re-recorded. CD-RW media can only be written in a CD-RW recorder, not in a normal CD recorder, though a CD-RW recorder can also record standard CD-R discs. More information on the read-back compatibility of CD-RW discs. CD Text An audio CD format in which up to 5000 characters of disc information (title, artist, song titles, etc.) is written into the disc Table of Contents. This information is displayed when the disc is played back on CD Text-enabled players. CD-WO Compact Disc-Write Once. A rarely-used term for recordable compact disc. Close Disc To "close" a recordable disc so that no further data can be written to it. This is done when the last session's lead-in is written. The next writeable address on the disc is not recorded in that lead-in, so the CD recorder in subsequent attempts to write has no way of knowing where to begin writing. Note: It is NOT necessary to close a disc in order to read it in a normal CD-ROM drive. Close Session When a session is closed, information about its contents is written into the disc's Table of Contents, and a lead-in and lead-out are written to prepare the disc for a subsequent session. Coaster Popular term for a ruined recordable CD, named after the round object you rest your drinking glass on so that it doesn't mark the table. Cue Sheet In Easy-CD Pro for Windows 3.1, a list of tracks which will be written one after the other in the same session without user intervention. Generally used to create multi-track audio or mixed-mode discs. D d-characters The character set used in ISO 9660 Level 1 filenames, if the standard is strictly adhered to (which is not always necessary). Consists of capital A to Z, digits 0 to 9, and the underscore symbol ( _ ). DAT Digital Audio Tape. Data Area In ISO 9660, the space on a CD-ROM where the user data is written. It begins at the physical sector address 00:02:16. Digital Audio Extraction The process of copying CD-DA audio tracks digitally, from your CD recorder or CD-ROM drive, to hard disk or to recordable CD. Not all CD-ROM drives support this (but most CD recorders do)! For more information. Disc-at-Once A method of writing CDs in which one or more tracks are written in a single operation, and the disc is closed, without ever turning off the writing laser. Contrast with Track-at-Once. Not all CDrecorders support Disc-at-Once.For more information. Disc Image A single large file which is an exact representation of the whole set of data and programs as it will appear on a CD, in terms of both content and logical format. This may be an ISO 9660 image (adhering strictly to the ISO 9660 standard), or some proprietary format such as the .cif format used by Easy CD Creator. E EAN See UPC. ECC Error Correction Code. A system of scrambling data and recording redundant data onto disc as it is recorded. During playback, this redundant information helps to detect and correct errors that may arise during data transmission. EDC Error Detection Code. 32 bits in each sector which are used to detect errors in the sector data. EnhancedCD See CD Extra. Extent A sequential set of sectors in which a file or portion of a file is recorded. F File System A data structure that translates the physical (sector) view of a disc into a logical (files, directories) structure, which helps both computers and users locate files. In other words, it records where files and directories are located on the disc. See also Logical Format. Firmware In a CD recorder, firmware is the programming instructions contained on a ROM chip within the CD recorder which tell the recorder how to respond to commands issued by software. Some firmware is flash-upgradeable, meaning that you can upgrade the firmware by running a piece of software on the computer attached to the recorder. Other firmware is coded into non- rewriteable chip, so the entire chip must be changed in order to upgrade the firmware. How to find out what firmware you have. FPS Frames per second. Frame A single, complete picture in a video or film. A video frame is made up of two interlaced fields of either 525 lines (NTSC) or 625 lines (PAL). Full-motion video for NTSC runs at 30 frames per second (fps); for PAL, 25 fps. Film runs at 24 fps. G Gap The gap (more correctly called a pause) is a space dividing tracks on a CD. In some situations a gap is required by the standards (Red Book and other "color" books). For example, if you have data and audio tracks within the same session, they must be separated by a gap. Also, there must be a gap of 2 to 3 seconds preceding the first track on a disc. The gap which "belongs" to a track is actually the gap before it, not the one after it. This is why on some audio CD players you will see a countdown (-02, -01, etc.) before a track begins - it?s counting down to the next track, not counting up from the end of the last one. H Header Field Four bytes recorded at the beginning of each sector which tell the address of the sector (expressed as a Logical Block Number) and the mode in which the sector is recorded. HFS The file system used by the Macintosh operating system to organize data on hard and floppy disks. Can also be used for CD-ROMs. High Sierra Format The standard logical format for CD-ROM originally proposed by the High Sierra Group, on which the ISO 9660 standard is based; essentially identical to ISO 9660. The original High Sierra format is no longer used. Hybrid Under the Orange Book standard for recordable CD, hybrid means a recordable disc on which one or more sessions are already recorded, but the disc is not closed, leaving space open for future recording. However, in popular use the term "hybrid" often refers to a disc containing both DOS/Windows and Macintosh software, which on a DOS/Windows platform is seen as a normal ISO 9660 disc, while on a Mac it appears as an HFS disc. I Indexes Indexes provide additional starting points within a single audio track. Not all audio CD players support indexes. Index markers are written into the Q subchannel and are incremented by 1 sequentially during the track. ISO 9660 Format The most common international standard for the logical format for files and directories on a CD-ROM. Some other common logical formats such as Joliet and Rock Ridge are extensions of ISO 9660. ISO 9660 Image See disc image. ISO 9660 Interchange Levels Methods of recording and naming files on disc under the ISO 9660 standard. There are three nested, downward-compatible Levels. In Level 1 (the lowest common denominator, developed with DOS file naming limitations in mind): Each file must be written on disc as a single, continuous stream of bytes (called an extent) -- files may not be fragmented or interleaved. A filename may not contain more than eight d-characters. A Filename Extension may not contain more than three d-characters. A directory name may not contain more than eight d-characters. In Level 2, again, each file must be written on disc in a single extent, filenames may be up to 255 characters long. In Level 3 a file may be written in multiple extents, so it is used for packet writing. Filenames may be up to 255 characters long. ISRC International Standard Recording Code. Some recorders allow the ISRC to be recorded for each audio track on a disc. The code is made up of: Country Code (2 ASCII characters), Owner Code (3 ASCII characters), Year of Recording (2 digits), Serial Number (5 digits). J Jewel Case The hinged plastic case in which CDs are often stored. Jewel Case Sleeve The pieces of paper which can be inserted into the jewel case to help identify the contents of the CD stored in the case.. Joliet Joliet is an extension of the ISO 9660 standard, developed by Microsoft to allow CDs to be recorded using long filenames, and using the Unicode international character set. Joliet allows you to use filenames up to 64 characters in length, including spaces. For more information. L Lead-In An area at the beginning of each session on a recordable compact disc which is left blank for the session's Table of Contents. The lead-in is written when a session is closed, and takes up 4500 sectors on disc (1 minute, or roughly 9 megabytes). The lead-in also contains next writeable address on the disc, so that future sessions can be added (unless the disc is closed). Lead-Out An area at the end of a session which indicates that the end of the data has been reached. The first lead-out on a disc is 6750 sectors (1.5 minutes, about 13 megabytes) long; any subsequent lead-outs are 2250 sectors (.5 minute, about 4 megabytes). Writing the lead-out closes the session. CD- ROM drives and CD audio players cannot see the data/audio in a session until the session is closed. Table of Contents For a whole disc or any session within a disc, shows the number of tracks, their starting locations, and the total length of the data area. The TOC does NOT show the length of each track, only its starting point.

Poke [ Konsul ]

O RANY!!! A to co mi wyszlo! Mialy byc 4 haselka a rozmnozyly sie cudownie! F**K

wysiu [ ]

W tekscie Poke'a wazny jest poczatek.. Gdy zapisze sie juz lead-in i lead-out, to sie juz nic nie dogra...

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Musi się dać!!!!!!!!!!!

Poke [ Konsul ]

Jeszcze raz przeczytalem Twoje pytanie i wydaje mi sie ze moze sie domyslam o co chodzi: jest cos takiego jak zamknieta sesja i zamkniety dysk. Do jednego i drugiego nie mozesz nic dograc ALE jak zamkniesz sesje to jeszcze mozesz dogrywac na dysk tyle ze w kolejnej sesji, a jak zamkniesz dysk to juz nic nie mozesz nagrywac. Dlatego ten pierwszy tryb to multisesyjne nagrywanie cd, innymi slowy: moze Twoj profesor pomylil zamkniecie sesji z zamknieciem dysku? Moze sadzil ze to jedno i to samo?

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

To czyli, że to zamykanie sesji tak jak mówisz to jest nic tylko jak continue session?

Poke [ Konsul ]

Gokussj_4 -> Jeszcze raz bo sie pogubilem ;)

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Czyli, że chodzi po prostu o kontynuację sesji? :))))))

Poke [ Konsul ]

Chyba tak. BTW Precyzujac: kontynuacje multisesji a to znaczy w nowej sesji.

Edwin [ Final Fantasy XI Player ]

Gokussj_4 ---> da sie ale nie powiem jak ;)

Poke [ Konsul ]

Edwin -> No to teraz Gokussj_4 ma niezly metlik w glowie :)

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Edwin mistrzu proszę powiedz jak.

Edwin [ Final Fantasy XI Player ]

Musisz powiedzieś profesorowi że jest głupi a ty nie i nie dasz sie nabrać na kiepskie żarty :)

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Czyli, że się nie da? OK THX

Edwin [ Final Fantasy XI Player ]

Jest to absolutnie nie możliwe :)

Edwin [ Final Fantasy XI Player ]

A jak jest taki mądry to niech ci powie jak, może to jakiś Bill Gates :)

Edwin [ Final Fantasy XI Player ]

A jak jest taki mądry to niech ci powie jak, może to jakiś Bill Gates 2:)

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Dzięki jutro go zgnoję, hama jednego. Jeszcze raz dzięki.

Poke [ Konsul ]

Edwin -> To chyba nie Bill, to chyba sam kapitan Kloss.

08.10.2002

23:35

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spoxmaster [ główny kozak ]

nagrywanie na płytke po zamknięciu sesji jest na 99% niemożliwe, chyba że ręcznie być otwierał ja pinćsetą

Gokussj_4 [ Centurion ]

Gdzie tam Kloss to jest Albert Einstein XXI w. :))))))))