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RMATYSIAK [ Konsul ]
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This fighting took place during the Korsun-Shevcheskovsk Operation. The 109th Tank Brigade was an element of 16th Tank Corps which was attached to the 2nd Tank Army. This Army fought against the German 3rd Panzer Corps. A commander of the 13th Regiment detached one company of 5 JS-1's and sent them into action. At that moment all the tanks of 109th Brigade were knocked out by German Panthers and assault guns camouflaged somewhere in the village.
Soviet tanks approached within 600-700 metres, when the Germans opened fire. All the Soviet tanks were knocked-out; two of them were burned out. Each of the JS's received up to 7 hits. The next day Lisyanka was encircled and liberated. The Russians captured 16 abandoned Panthers, 2 Pz-IV and 2 StuG-40. They were abandoned after running out of fuel.
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PAK [ Pretorianin ]
No dobra ale o co chodzi? Realia walk froncie wschodnim są raczej znane.
RRBM [ Pretorianin ]
Na fronicie wschodnim było tak. Nieważne jak dobrzy byli dowodzący i jak wielkimi byli strategami. Ruscy i tak ich zarzucili masą żelastwa i ludzi. I po co komu strategia. Wystarczy terrtor, pare milionów ludzi i bogate złoża metalu i ropy.
Kłosiu [ Senator ]
RRBM --> nie masz racji. Niemcy popelnili wiele bledow na fronie wschodnim, glownie dzieki swiatlemu dowodztwu AH. A i Rosjanie pod koniec wojny gonili resztkami sil, szczegolnie w piechocie.
RMATYSIAK [ Konsul ]
Pak chodzi o poruwnanie czolgow. Niewazne jaki czolg dobry bez paliwa .....
PAK [ Pretorianin ]
No bez paliwa to Abrams, Leopard czy T-90 tez nie pociągną. W batalionach czołgów ciężkich większość strat stanowiły właśnie przypadki porzucania czołgów z powodu niemożności naprawy uszkodzeń bądź braku paliwa.